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“Wait, Is This a romantic date?” Podcast Episode 102: The Chart | Autostraddle

Recently on “Wait, So is this a romantic date?” we are accompanied by Autostraddle President and

L Word

specialist
Riese Bernard
to go over: The Chart. That is right! This occurrence is all about lesbian over 50 — hooking up with pals’ exes, friends starting up with our exes, and culture created by everything drama.

Appear your gossip, remain for any psychological handling. And before that enjoy a-game that assessments Christina’s limits: Would U-Haul? (Spoiler alert: she generally wouldn’t.)

Thank-you for the wonderful feedback after our very own premier! When you haven’t yet give consideration to providing us with a rating or review!


SHOW RECORDS

+ Five years ago Riese developed an
Old Hollywood data
that is the intersection of all my personal interests.

+ Here Is
the article
I reference in which We mention starting up with my roommates.

+ My crush of the few days Mj Rodriguez circulated a music video on her behalf track
“something you should Say”
!

+ As someone who has merely observed a number of symptoms of

The Nanny

this montage
of Christina’s crush associated with few days C.C. Babcock was surprising for me whenever it proved she and Niles commonly both homosexual. (Christina tells me they basically nonetheless are.)



Drew:

I would personally be extremely okay with it present. I would never ever add someone else without their authorization. However the notion of each time some body was actually like, “make sure you happen to be linked to me,” I’d resemble, “Yeah, oahu is the existence i have lived. I don’t care about.” Is that strange? Is a challenge?


Christina:

No, since if I happened to ben’t, i’d feel poor not. I’d wind up as, “Wait, I’m not sleeping?”


Theme song performs


Drew:

Hi, I’m Drew.


Christina:

Hi, I Am Christina.


Drew:

And welcome to

Wait, Is It A Night Out Together?


Christina:


Hold Off, Is This A Date?

is an Autostraddle podcast asking the major questions. Firstly, could it possibly be a romantic date? What are times? That happen to be times? Can we like times? These are the variety of concerns that people address about this here incredibly professional and lovely podcast.


Drew:

My name is Drew Gregory. I’m a writer at Autostraddle and a filmmaker and, famously, a trans lesbian.


Christina:

I’m called Christina Tucker. I am in addition a writer at Autostraddle. I’m a loud queer online. I’m recovering at explaining me as an author and, famously, a lesbian. Which is all of us. That is which our company is.


Drew:

Yeah. And so our very own primary topic recently is The Chart.


Christina:

I just believed it required a sting. I’m not sure. That thought actually dramatic, but i believe it required it.


Drew:

Yes. No, please, please, please. Thank you so much, many thanks. No, no, no. The appropriate amount of drama.


Christina:

Thanks.


Drew:

Yeah. So we’re dealing with lesbian interconnectivity.


Christina:

I favor that expression given that it seems like you need to resume the lesbians. It sounds like internet connection is not functioning.


Drew:

Yes. it is extremely advanced level, extremely advanced, but also ‘s been around since there has been lesbians, i do believe.


Christina:

Yeah. I believe scholars would state whenever they found the initial lesbian fossils, they found an information alongside of these carved inside mud. And that I genuinely believe that’s exactly what that flick concerns, proper? It is more about the data? That film with Kate Winslet and also the sand fossils?


Drew:


Ammonite?


Christina:

Yeah, that’s what it’s about.


Drew:

If only

Ammonite

was about cavern ladies. I’d view that lesbian flick.


Christina:

Well, as I haven’t observed it, I’m going to courageously point out that it had been. Cool.


Drew:

Yeah. Because it’s like we’ve a lot of lesbian duration pieces, but we have now never eliminated straight back that much. And that I think it’s time we would.


Christina:

Let’s merely keep taking it furthermore back in its history.


Drew:

Before we obtain to the primary subject, you’re still getting to know us. And I felt that it could be fun to relax and play a game in which you guys could actually learn Christina. So the icebreaker for this week is slightly video game that I name “Would U-Haul.”


Christina:

I am, once again, very stressed about it. This might you need to be the way I come to the video game. This might be my online game mindset, somewhat high-key, slightly stressed. Which is ok. We’re all discovering.


Drew:

In my opinion which is fantastic. In my opinion that may have you more susceptible, possibly.


Christina:

Among the best thoughts.


Drew:

Merely a horror, just an acute horror. Therefore the method in which “Would U-Haul” works is actually I’m going to explain a situation. Let’s call-it Christina enthusiast fiction. And I also’m browsing pause after each little section to get love, “Okay, Christina, I know which you have never ever stayed with a partner, do not want to live with somebody. But under these scenarios, would U-Haul?”


Christina:

And I will both say yes or we’ll say, “I’m all set.”


Drew:

If you do not — well, we’ll see here. But I’m thrilled. I believe I maybe cracked the rule.


Christina:

You have damaged the signal? I am excited.


Drew:

Why don’t we observe very long this takes. And in case you won’t ever perform, i do believe you win? I don’t know how you will find champions here.


Christina:

I’m not sure there exists winners from inside the online game of U-Hauling.


Drew:

Really, I don’t know in the event that you’ll go along with that following this. Thus I’m going to get heading.


Christina:

Reasonable sufficient.


Drew:

Okay. Very, Christina.


Christina:

Drew.


Drew:

You’re at your pal’s wedding ceremony. Inspite of the plethora of romcoms you have consumed, you probably did perhaps not head to this marriage considering you would satisfy any individual because, really, this is simply not a romcom. This is actually the actual and regular lifetime of Christina Grace Tucker. You adopt your designated chair and are generally glancing at the phone whenever you recognize a female at your table is looking at you. She introduces by herself as your buddy’s previous baby sitter. She’s remained a buddy with the family members, but she does not actually know any individual there. She appears like mid-forties features a striking angular face. You set about chatting. She offers to produce a drink. And when she stacks up, you realize she is six feet high, 6′ 3″ in pumps. And that means you know very well what? I am only planning to hold on there and be want, now, would U-Haul?


Christina:

I’m captivated. I’m captivated because i may get put during this wedding ceremony. But at this point I am not U-Hauling anywhere.


Drew:

Cool. That is totally reasonable. Completely reasonable. Okay. And that means you spend the entire wedding ceremony learning each other. Absolutely only an instantaneous spark and immediate chemistry. And indeed, you are doing get together while the sex is remarkable.


Christina:

Tight.


Drew:

And so this marriage was in Northern Ca. And so you both expand your stays for a few days to shag and explore and consume at restaurants and shag. And also you offer to split the cost of the now combined place, but she laughs you off and it is similar, “demonstrably not, honey.” Therefore, the after that three days are miracle. You think your walls tumbling down. You are slipping quicker than you previously have. Would U-Haul?


Christina:

Therefore only for clearness’s benefit, I’m having difficulty imagining a global for which we got three shock days away from try to hang out with you I do not understand. That appears bonkers. However, if I did, good-for me personally. But I’m not U-Hauling during this period. It’s going to be a no.


Drew:

Great. Okay. Which is fine. You just found. I get it. I get it. Okay.


Christina:

Thank-you really.


Drew:

So she returns to nyc therefore come back to Philadelphia.


Christina:

That’s where We live.


Drew:

And you are texting everyday. This is where you are living and it’s also where this girl resides. And you’re texting on a regular basis therefore see each other many times 30 days. She’s extremely active with her job, but she actually is rapid purchase you a train solution to help you arrive see her and remain at the woman beautiful brownstone in Fort Greene. And then half a year pass. And another night when you are over to supper, she requires you to move in together. Would U-Haul?


Christina:

And relocate to Ny? I don’t love ny. No, I’m not relocating from the six months mark. I am not carrying out that, no.


Drew:

Okay, okay. Totally, completely, entirely. Wow. Okay. And that means you keep internet dating long distance. She knows that you’ll need some time this woman is willing to expect you. A few more several months move. It really is now already been over a-year. The property owner informs you they are offering your place to a developer who’s investing in condos, and that means you can not restore it. You should find another spot. The today sweetheart tells you that no pressure, but the woman offer nevertheless appears. Would U-Haul?


Christina:

Okay. Now, i might U-Haul for a couple of factors.


Drew:

Yay! Ok. Please tell us.


Christina:

Primarily, in some sort of which my personal landlord ended up selling the house to improve it, my personal property manager is currently my personal companion, to make sure that appears like some thing went wrong within our relationship. And I might want to simply leave Philadelphia anyhow. Of course, if I have to go in using my girlfriend over right here, that looks fine. Which is great. Totally okay. But yeah, In my opinion I might require an external power like a mean property manager.


Drew:

Which is very — okay. I did genuinely believe that you’ll have to require construction getting indeed there, therefore I’m glad I knew that.


Christina:

Yeah. That is just what has to occur to myself initially.


Drew:

Well, I’m grateful to understand what it takes. So in theory, if you weren’t knocked out, exactly how much more hours?


Christina:

Truly, might went on for a long period. Philly and New York commonly even that definately not one another. I got area over right here. We’re moving back and forth. We’re having memories. I possibly could have leave that roll for quite some time until i assume Shoshana can become the worst person i understand.


Drew:

I didn’t know that Shoshana possessed your own home. Really, there you decide to go.


Christina:

There we go. Wow, which was thrilling.


Drew:

Well, thanks for playing.


Christina:

I’m stressed, to get clear.


Drew:

And I also’m grateful that i understand… perhaps if you’re actually, anytime anyone’s ever dating both you and desires one to move around in, possibly your girlfriend informed Shoshana to sell your house for the sake of the commitment.


Christina:

Genuinely the quickest means — someone would simply have to keep in touch with Shoshana and be want, “simply kick her completely.” Following she’d be like, “Yeah, certain. Obviously.” That could be how it happened, even if she did not sell the house. Somebody would you need to be like, “is it possible to simply stop the girl out therefore she’s going to only conquer it and move in beside me?” And she would state yes. A hundred percent she would do this. That is what friendship is actually.


Drew:

I favor that.


Christina:

Yeah, that is actually gorgeous.


Drew:

Well, personally i think like we learned many about you.


Christina:

Thanks A Lot. I believe like We discovered lots about myself, also. Danger of homelessness is actually the point that keeps me relocating any scenario, i assume. Wow.


Drew:

Well, that’s great.


Christina:

That was truly fascinating. I am similarly delighted to go into our very own primary phase because i do believe referring to lesbian connection with this specific guest, with this particular unique visitor, I think it will likely be incredible, Drew. How are you experiencing?


Drew:

I’m thus thrilled. This might be an expert. And also by that, after all an

L Keyword

expert, but also some specialized inside the subject at hand.


Christina:

I believe a couple of things can be true, my pal. I believe two things could be real without a doubt. Will we wish to present our very own guest or do we wish our visitor introducing by themselves?


Drew:

I would personally love our very own visitor to introduce by herself.


Christina:

Guest.


Drew:

I am going to say that all of our visitor may be the only Riese Bernard.


Christina:

Guest, speak.


Riese:

Hi, I Am Riese. And is odd as the visitor!


Christina:

Yeah, it is.


Riese:

I had not to say any such thing. I did not actually take action. I did state circumstances. I experienced to stay right here calmly.


Christina:

Therefore had been really daring. Plus faces had been appreciated.


Riese:

Thanks a lot such.


Christina:

Though this will be obviously an audio average, i would like our audience to know that Riese had been creating some very nice impulse confronts during “Would U-Haul.”


Riese:

Absolutely various ways to get heard. You know what I mean? That’s what i state. I’m the Chief Executive Officer of Autostraddle.com. And I’m in addition on an undefeated kickball staff. And that is myself. I’ve your pet dog called Carol. And that I have actually dated people.


Christina:

Congrats on the kickball!


Riese:

Thank-you. I am a part of individuals.


Christina:

Great. Adoring that. That’s fantastic to take for this, this right here online dating podcast. That’s excellent.


Riese:

Yeah. I think that… Is there whatever else?


Drew:

No, i believe that’s fantastic, Riese.


Christina:

Whatever you decide and should share.


Riese:

I like raspberries, the good fresh fruit raspberries, and swimming pools.


Christina:

Compared to…


Riese:

You Are Aware an individual goes like…


Drew:

It really is like when you strike. Yeah.


Christina:

Oh. Those are terrible, and so I just evacuated all of them from my mind.


Riese:

Yeah. And that’s all.


Christina:

Great.


Drew:

Well, we straight away thought of you because of this topic.


Christina:

That’s true.


Drew:

Because first and foremost, obviously, queer females and non-binary people in lesbian community have-been like, I don’t know, having sexual intercourse with others who their friends have seen sex with since well before

The L Word

had been previously a sequence. But i actually do feel

The L Term

solidified a certain cultural notion of the data with Alice Pieszecki. I really felt like you’ll have a lot of understanding of this topic.


Riese:

It is correct. A couple of article writers, I want to state, of

The L Word

had this actual information of them as well as their friends these people were attracting regarding wall surface or whatever. And Guinevere Turner, In my opinion, had been one. She talked to you regarding it, they had built this. Because clearly, everyone else for the reason that journalist’s place had banged other folks in the blogger — you are sure that, therefore the prolonged web of these generation of lesbians in l . a .. And so they noticed that and these were like, “Let’s put it for the tv show.” And some of these take the data. Like, one particular just who … like, actual men and women are throughout the data as a tale.


Christina:

That’s amazing. That’s how you know you’ve made it.


Riese:

Actually that adorable?


Christina:

That will be exciting personally.


Riese:

Therefore for those who haven’t seen

The L Keyword,

to start with, congrats. Secondly, it becomes the centerpiece of one your head character, Alice’s, apartment. She’s almost everything over the woman wall surface. Looked after is the title of a site that they began called ourchart.com that flopped. Therefore the concept … and it is inside pilot, i do believe. Within the first event, Alice starts dealing with just how everyone’s connected, because everybody’s hooked up with this particular person. And that I can hook up you, like you’re most likely no more than two degrees away from me. Which ended up being real. Like, despite Dana, who had limited knowledge because she ended up being a closeted tennis member, they nevertheless could actually connect the lady. And that’s true to life since it is true.


Christina:

That is culture. Yeah. That is what tradition looks like.


Riese:

That’s tradition. That’s queer society there. And then everybody else can make their particular charts.


Christina:

Yeah. To ensure that would definitely end up being my after that question, was actually have either of you made a chart? Because I don’t believe I have, and I am type of now thinking like, that which was this a year ago resting inside my residence for if I didn’t create a chart? Like, that which was the point of that, really?


Riese:

I believe i have done it during my diary, in the same way like … Because I really like, I don’t know, planning info, i assume, as an idea physical exercise.


Christina:

Yeah, i believe that’s in addition exactly why Im astonished that You will findn’t done it. I really like the concept of categorizing situations.


Riese:

Appropriate. Yeah. Since it is interesting. I am not sure the reason why its very interesting, but it’s. It’s interesting getting like, wow, all these folks, they may be linked. It really is wild.


Drew:

From the tv series, when ourchart.com is conceived, they’ve a real data that individuals can add on material. And I also feel just like something you joked in regards to on

To L and Right Back,

nowadays men and women state constantly is a lot like, when this existed in a real means, no-one would place their own labels about it, nobody would feel at ease getting their own brands about it.


Riese:

You might.


Drew:

I’d. I might end up being really great along with it existing. I would personally never add someone else without their own authorization. Nevertheless concept of similar, whenever someone ended up being like, “Confirm that you might be connected to myself,” I’d be like, “Yeah, oahu is the existence I resided. I really don’t worry about.” Is that strange? Usually a problem?


Christina:

No, since if I found myselfn’t, I would feel bad not-being … i might be like, “Wait, I am not upon it? Like, i’m very sorry, what?” No, that will really send me personally into lighting ethical stress about whom Im as people, the things I’m undertaking. In the morning we interesting? Do men and women {like

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